“All right, okay, so I go back way back to where I started at Rutgers in New Brunswick. I studied, video art and we studied experimental makers, Barbara Hammer, you know, a few others, Buñuel's in this collection, but I'm not going to go there right now, but another person whose work that I really loved was Hollis Frampton, and they have his collection here of his shorter works from '66 to '79. He did films, he did, he played with time and speed and just questioned cinema and the totality of it and what it means with representation. This is really something if you want to like learn about form, which is very important to learn about how to, learn about narrative. So there's moments between people talking and what you see, and Frampton gives you a lot to see here, so this is something I'm, I'm going to take as well.”
