“I saw when I came in Wanda by Barbara Loden here, yeah. It's one of my favorites and I must say it's something I have discovered together with my friend Harun Farocki. He used Wanda for one of his seminars, one scene. It's when Wanda is coming into a bar. She's out of money, she was in a cinema very alone, and the barkeeper is very nervous and you don't know why, and she wants a beer, yeah. And he makes a beer and he can't do it, he has no skill to make beers, it's not very good. And then you see for a moment that there a man is lying on the ground with a with a towel in his mouth so he can't shout and cry. And this man who is not the barkeeper, he's a robber, yeah. And from this moment on, both are together, the robber and Wanda. And this is something Harun loves so much: people are together not because they are in love, because they need each other. Love is something which is coming later, yeah.”