“Oh, Kes. Remember Kes? I haven’t got Kes. You should have it in your collection. I should. I’ve got all of Ken Loach’s stuff, I have to say. Oh... You know what happens... Yeah. He and I get accosted in the street by people, and they say to me, “I love your film about the boy with a bird.” You know, “Are you, are you Ken Loach?” And I say, “No.” And then they ask Ken, “Are you Mike Leigh?” And he says, “No, he’s not.” He denies it.”