“And then we have Close-Up. The mixing of fiction and documentary was so powerful that I was, like Safi Faye said, there was no boundary between, as African we don't have no limit between fiction and documentary. And, and Close-Up, it's really in alignment with that. It also opened me to the work of Makhmalbaf and, and how, how I was connected to, to people that I don't even know or imagine before, and how I was so close to that reality only because they, they frame it in a certain way and they show it in a certain way. Also free me, free me to just say to myself: I don't have to choose between documentary and, and fiction, I just want to just tell story as I really felt it, yeah.”